I have to admit I'm growing tired of the debate over whether it's okay to torture, or okay that we did it in the past, or whatever. The mainstream discussion on the issue can be quite frustrating, like when a Fox news anchor said John McCain shouldn't be able to talk about torture because he was once tortured. Now we have Joe Lieberman taking up for Cheney and co. This video was noted in a comment from an open line the other day, but since watching it, I haven't been able to get it off my mind. A rather brash Playboy reporter thinks he can stand waterboarding for 15 seconds. He can't. His comments afterward are very interesting.